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    • 46

      Of Failed Startups

      30 May 2008

      Octales was in the news today, kind of:

      After several failed attempts to create a compelling social networking service in the past, a co-founder of a Philippines-based software startup is finally attracting several local investors to bet on a relatively new idea: a real-time, collaborative storytelling social service.

      Not exactly the most flattering portrayal (of what is invariably the truth, so it’s not like I’m denying it or anything), but I suppose beggars can’t be choosers, as they say. Interestingly, one of the old-school highfiber members took issue with the notion that highfiber.org was a failure. I suppose if it were possible to evaluate success solely on the rabid nature of a website’s visitors, then yeah, HF was pretty successful. On the other hand, its charm was mostly because of the fact that it felt really underground and obscure, so “unbridled success” just wasn’t in its DNA.

      Also, I always find it strange when people refer to me by my last name, e.g.:

      Buenaventura said Octales hopes to differentiate itself because it is more interactive than rival social networking services.

      Maybe I should come up with a shorter, catchier name like “Bono” or “Cher.”

      46 Responses to “Of Failed Startups”

      1. morgan de sade Says:
        June 4th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

        hifiber was one of the best sites ever, variety , intrigue, action, drama, music,porn etc… I could go on forever.
        I still miss it btw.

      2. Ryan Says:
        June 5th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

        You could be LuBu.

      3. tikboy Says:
        June 7th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

        oi luis any plans of relaunching the site?…tangina andaming forums sa mundo but none compares to the content and the people of the old hifi..

      4. jrams Says:
        June 9th, 2008 at 1:31 am

        just dropped by to ask if there is a possibility na mabuhay ulit and highfiber…. everybody misses it…especially the pron part… i mean the poking and the patting haha

      5. morgan de sade Says:
        June 10th, 2008 at 10:52 am

        the poking/patting was by far the best feature of ye olde hifi kinda hope luis resurrects its back to life.

      6. minor Says:
        June 10th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

        bring back the old hifi, just one more shot luis just one more shot

      7. Sam Juan Says:
        June 12th, 2008 at 1:13 am

        you forgot the fact that most of the userbase you get from your other social networks came from the old members of highfiber.

      8. luis Says:
        June 13th, 2008 at 9:49 am

        > you forgot the fact that most of the userbase you get from
        > your other social networks came from the old members of
        > highfiber.

        Come on, how could I forget something like that? I wasn’t downplaying highfiber’s significance, I was merely stating what I think is a primary flaw in its concept.

      9. j4s0n Says:
        June 13th, 2008 at 11:00 am

        +1 for highfiber’s resurrection

      10. spidamang Says:
        June 13th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

        Bugging luis for

        HF’s Return

        :D

      11. meiji Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 1:44 am

        decided to peek at hifi’s dead page and saw something surprising that made excited…
        is it true..is it true??? how many times we have to bug you to bring back hifi??lol
        now im getting my hopes higher about this one ….
        *whistles and waits patiently*

      12. green at kahel Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 1:53 am

        PRETTY PLEASE?

      13. chelsea Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 2:01 am

        oh. meiji, thanksie. yes, pls bring back hifi. if your thinking of changing the layout, remember that hifi 6 will always be close to lotsa people’s hearts. i miss patting and poking haha. pls pls bring it back.
        *launches signature campaign*

      14. toodles Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 7:09 am

        *pats*

        Ooooooh, i sure do miss typing that….
        1 more go shouldn’t be such a bad idea.

        How about an invite-only highfiber.. haha!

      15. Sam Juan Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 7:15 am

        okay, i wont be chewing your butt like an irate client. pero luis, you’re one of the coolest guys, we know. so it came off kinda wrong when you said that. we hope that octales wont be flushed down the drain too in the future.

        question lang: have you affiliated with a publishing company in the event na magka novel length creation sa octales? or will you be passing the work to lulu.com and other online publishing company?

        i, myself, had been studying rails, coz i’ve been inspired sort-of by what you do, so i’ve been thinking up of new ideas for a biz-plan. sorry to say, pero for me, medyo muddy yung business plan ng octales, since ang creation ng content is entirely dependent sa intellectual sharpness at improvisation skill ng users, it means na it will be a long time before any masterpiece will come out (realistically speaking). meanwhile, about yung costs for maintaining a site (especially if mataas ang bandwidth requirement nya because of the users) saan kukuhanin yung bayad dun? i know medyo mataas yung royalties na makukuha sa books, pero what if the books were a flop?

        sorry, there were just too many factors to take note of. i’ve always believed kasi in murphy’s law. whatever could go wrong, will. pero anyway, good luck. =)

      16. Lance Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

        I miss the Hifiber. especially those with pat/pokes system.

      17. Owstalaga Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

        “Yooohooo, hifiii where are you???”

        Pls don’t say Highfiber was a failure… (nkaka-hurt… hahah, kami p tlga na-hurt noh?) eherm… well it just kinda lost it’s charm when it became hifi zero… hehe…

        But i do hope you could resurrect it… let’s call it Highfiber Reload… Harharhar… ^_^

      18. Riffmeister Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

        Highfiber ran for about 6 (?) years with about five good years of retardedly smart discussions and if that doesn’t fit the word successful, I don’t know what the word successful means.

        I’ve been getting offline messages in my messenger about Highfiber’s resurgence. Just the mere fact that a teaser was put in the old HF domain of it’s return gets all these net monkeys excited as hell, imagine how would they react if HF starts running again.

        Anyway, nice work on Octales. I’m enjoying it.

      19. luis Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

        Just to clarify guys:

        although the Inquirer article did make it sound like I was miffed about all of these ideas of mine that never amounted to much, I never said that highfiber.org in particular was a failure. (I was talking about the other 3 sites, mostly.) I guess I didn’t say it clearly enough during the interview — HF was so “alternative” that it could never really be the mainstream success that these bigger networks are.

        But that being said, I’m really overwhelmed by the comments here, and I really hope I can find some way to get this thing going again.

      20. watanabe Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

        HF Fanboys unite! LOL.

        Anyway luis, or master luis back in the golden times, I noticed that filmcrowd is still up, and all the pages seem to be intact, just as long as you point your browser to filmcrowd.com, and not http://www.filmcrowd.com. Just a little something I noticed, ’cause this thing might still be eating up your bills.

      21. zidac Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

        luis, ano ba?! ang dami ko ng pending na pictures na pang-friendster! hindi ka ba nanghihinayang? gusto ko ng i-post lahat ‘to sa highfiber!

      22. Lizz Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

        LOL.

      23. justin-apay. Says:
        June 14th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

        *pokes* next thread!

        just bring the gundam HF back, will you?

        *refreshes HF.org every minute*

      24. danapz Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 1:02 am

        *bug luis*

        +4 to bring highfiber back \m/

      25. chelsea Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 1:35 am

        makikita mo talaga yung loyal followers diba? just one message in ym and here they are. you know you can always count on us =)

      26. Riffmeister Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 4:15 am

        And there goes this entry.. :D

        Goodluck!

      27. watanabe Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

        And oh, I got featured on master luis’ blog! Even if it’s just a twit!

        *Giggles and screams like a fangirl turned baby*
        LOL

      28. meiji Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

        *stil bugging luis*

        now i feel like im a spammer…

      29. dan Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

        i was part of the old hifi and i dont think it was a failure. :D grabeh super advanced sha nung time nya. me kasalanan din ako dun actually, :( i stopped posting sa parang blog column ko. but goodluck with octales luis! im sure magiging successful sha and thanks so much for coming over to pecha kucha manila!

      30. acer Says:
        June 15th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

        tis the perfect time to bring back highfiber… got loads of pictures to post… and lotsa newbies to poke.

        Nyahahahahahaahahah!!!!

      31. donzy Says:
        June 16th, 2008 at 10:29 am

        yeah, bring back highfiber!!

      32. dabong Says:
        June 16th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

        i’ve been sane since highfiber went out.

        and i don’t like it.

      33. wapski Says:
        June 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am

        Ibalik ang HiFi!!!…… Please??…..

      34. kastheen Says:
        June 17th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

        bring back highfiber…

        i got nothing to do in the office anymore… hehehe

      35. Jots18 Says:
        June 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

        sabi ni luis next week up na ang HIFI…

        hehehe

        Pls luis pag-binalik mo ang hifi pls… pls… lang yung Hifi 6. Wag na yung zero. Pls.

        Tsaka yung download wag mo din alisin. heheh

        *nag-iipon ng ebooks.

      36. spidamang Says:
        June 17th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

        suddenly, all my anticipated summer movies are rendered pointless.

        *hits F5 like I’ve just downed lotsa coffee.

      37. Riffmeister Says:
        June 18th, 2008 at 12:28 am

        LOL @ All these excited people.

        Like I’m not excited.. :D :D :D

      38. chelsea Says:
        June 18th, 2008 at 4:18 am

        *anticipating*

      39. angtipaklong Says:
        June 18th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

        just heard this rumor about HIFI coming back cant wait,
        Hifi version 6 was the best maybe skip hifi zero and go straight to hifi version 8 with the same old features.

      40. jack sparrow of highfiber Says:
        June 18th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

        w
        h
        a
        p
        o
        k
        e
        s
        !

      41. Lizz Says:
        June 20th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

        I tagged you. Do this boring meme: http://labuenaventura.insanejournal.com/18620.html

      42. Marie Casas Says:
        June 20th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

        I cringed when I saw that article. Sorry but honestly I couldn’t get past that first part… too painful to read… but I guess publicity is publicity, good or bad.

      43. lakerfan Says:
        June 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

        yeah, bring back the old days. i love highfiber, totally rocked my world…\m/™

      44. guttervomit » And Suddenly, Highfiber. Says:
        June 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm

        [...] for anyone keeping count), after receiving an unexpected number of comments about it on my previous entry. I made the decision to bring it back, appropriately, on Friday the 13th and proceeded to throw it [...]

      45. Back with a Vengeance! « Half-empty, Half-full Says:
        June 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm

        [...] “announcement” interesting per se, it struck me that it might have been that the day a number of former members of the site were anticipating would’ve been now. So curiosity had me going to the site and staring at the new site again [...]

      46. Sam Juan Says:
        June 26th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

        This just shows just how many people are lurking in here. hehehe

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