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    • 10

      The Fantastic Torch

      14 Jun 2007

      Saw Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer yesterday, although not on purpose. (We were originally supposed to catch Arthur and the Invisibles at the French Film Festival at the Shang, but did not find the rather dismal 20% rating on Rotten Tomatoes very encouraging. On the other hand, it’s been 13 years since Luc Besson made a decent movie; why do I even bother?)

      Now, I should probably say that I didn’t think the first Fantastic Four was a total waste of time (unlike say, Spider-man III), although I need to qualify that further by saying that it was really due to extremely low expectations. Spider-man II was a phenomenal movie … very nearly my favorite comic films of all-time, so III was a major letdown. The Fantastic Four, meanwhile, have never quite been my cup of tea, and as such, I go into each FF movie expecting it to suck.

      Don’t get me wrong though. Both FF movies were crap. I wouldn’t go out of my way to see either one again. However, they also didn’t make me want to jump out of my seat, rip my shirt apart, curse the Marvel universe, and run screaming out of the theater (again, like Spider-man III did).

      If you’ve already seen the first FF, the sequel is more of the same. The FF is easily Marvel’s most archetypal superhero movie franchise. Loved and revered by their fans, impervious to emotional weakness, facing down world-threatening enemies on a daily basis … these guys are postcards with super-powers. In the movie’s overly-long opening scenes, we are reintroduced to the Fantastic Four at a random American airport. They’re signing autographs left and right while watching themselves on the news. Later, we see what is apparently Reed and Sue’s nth attempt to have a proper wedding ceremony without some new crisis erupting in some remote part of the world. It’s a media circus; there are thousands of fans waiting outside the Baxter Building for news. Of course (and we know this from the trailer, so I’m not spoiling anything), the Silver Surfer chooses this as the perfect moment to make an appearance and ruins everything.

      As an aside: both Spidey III and FF II featured their principal characters dancing. Apparently it’s a newly-revived comics tradition, you know, like Batman used to do. For some reason though, I thought that Tobey Maguire’s dance number was absolutely horrific, while Ioan Gruffud’s was only mildly nauseating. (There’re those lower expectations again.)

      A couple of minor, spoiler-laced comments:

      1. The Silver Surfer likes making holes. Throughout most of the middle-third of this movie, the Surfer goes around making these huge 200-meter holes in the ground and generally laying waste to well-known landmarks. Why he does this is never adequately explained. I was under the impression that he was making giant tunnels to the center of the Earth to allow for easier access upon Galactus’ arrival but why were they not spewing magma then?

      2. Galactus is a cloud. People who aren’t familiar with Galactus should probably know what he looks like in the comics:

      Cool huh? And totally un-cloud-like. To be fair, there is one version of Galactus, used in the alternate-universe version of the Fantastic Four penned by Ellis & Millar (in the Ultimate Extinction series) in which Galactus is depicted as a hive-like alien race bent on destroying the Earth. Still not a sentient gas cloud, but a bit closer than the classical mega-robot Galactus.

      I have a number of issues with the cloud Galactus, the most important being that it’s visually boring. There is no sense of dread seeing this massive gas cloud approach the Earth (it has about the same amount of dramatic tension as the killer ice in The Day After Tomorrow). The secondary issue is how far this really falls from the comic book mythology: Galactus is one of the 5 cosmic forces that bring balance to the universe. Like Shiva in Hinduism, Galactus is a destroyer. In this movie, there’s no clear reason for his (its) arrival, and no clear reason how the Surfer could become the herald of a gas cloud that doesn’t even communicate.

      3. The Fantastic Torch. In a very peculiar showdown between Doom and the Human Torch, Johnny absorbs the combined powers of the entire team and becomes what I can only describe as “The Fantastic Torch.” This is a strange thing to do, and is totally audience-pandering; the movie fans love Chris Evans a bit too much, and the screenwriters capitalized on that fact shamelessly. I’m not saying it wasn’t interesting, but the motivation behind it was just a little too obvious for me to become completely comfortable with the decision.

      Over all, I’d probably give this movie a 2.5 out of five. Kids in a certain age group will love it to death, just because it’s got cool fights and visual effects up the wazoo, and comic fans who aren’t total purists will probably be able to forgive its various misrepresentations. If you don’t fall into either of these two categories, my advice is to stay well away.

      10 Responses to “The Fantastic Torch”

      1. michaelMD Says:
        June 15th, 2007 at 2:41 am

        Regarding Galactus… a giant purple dude with a big ‘G’ on his belt (in the 60’s anyhow) isn’t going to fly in today comics or movies hence the changes made to Galactus in the Ultimate Universe and the film. Big purple/ blue being just looks cheesy. Fantastic Four already stretches the audience’s suspension of disbelief by having us watch cosmic rays giving non-dangerous mutations to 4-5 astronauts as well as alien life forms. Should the film’s writers have introduced the celestial beings like Eternity, the Living Tribunal, etc. (you know them, the beings who fought Thanos over his Infinity Gauntlet) who bring balance to the universe? Probably not.

        I also liked the interpretation of Galactus. He is a being of energy in the comics very difficult to interpret. Every race in the universe tries to comprehend him by making him look like one of them (i.e. reversing God making man in his image I suppose). So as far as we know, Galactus could look like a cloud. As far as I’m concerned, Galactus was interpreted to film well enough. By the way, people should look closely at the shadow Galactus casts on Saturn. It’s a kind of easter egg.

        Silver Surfer was fine. But I believe he’s supposed to be really powerful since Norrin Radd holds the power cosmic. Why the fuck does he depend on his board for power?

        Anyway, like you, due to lower standards, I enjoyed the movie. It was a superhero film well done. Using such a description, then Batman Begins was a great film that happened to be about a superhero.

      2. luis Says:
        June 15th, 2007 at 9:26 am

        Ok, granted that the classic version of Galactus is not the most movie-friendly of visuals, but even the Fantasticar was still a car when they redesigned it. Galactus’ ship in the comics was supposed to be as big as the moon, right? A ship the size of a small planet would have been a lot more intimidating than this bodiless mist, I’ll bet.

      3. Dino Latoga Says:
        June 15th, 2007 at 11:12 am

        What a spoiler. I thought the release date of the movie was still today. I couldn’t say you were lucky that you saw it already after reading your thoughts about it.

        Well I’m still gonna watch the movie out of curiousity. I’m a fan of the comics and I’ve seen Marvel characters who evolved into movies that really doesn’t justify the real story on comic books. Let alone, spider-man.

        Man.

      4. Ryan Says:
        June 15th, 2007 at 1:14 pm

        yeh, i decided to skip out on arthur and the invisbles right after seeing the 20% rating and seeing the troll-like fairies.

      5. Ryan Says:
        June 16th, 2007 at 7:05 am

        Saw it, kinda liked it despite the obvious moments. Galactus as cloud is still pretty scary despite lack of gravitas (he can’t really talk or nothing, so no personality there eh?).

        One thing, the writers screwed up a perfectly good joke at the end when they get married in japan. When Reed said wait, I have an idea (in reference to their wedding) I was absolutely positive they were gonna end up in vegas. You could even have thrown n the same priest, except in an elvis costume. Seriously, no sense of humor, these writers.

      6. Dino Says:
        June 17th, 2007 at 12:05 pm

        I’ve finally seen the movie last night. it’s not bad though. The story may be different from the comics but I guess the writers had to change the story so everyone at every age can understand the story easier.

        I mean they did the same with SpiderMan. I remember when I was young, I used to watch the SpiderMan and also the Fantastic Four Cartoons but my dad would always change the channel. I would go and buy comics and my parents would say it’s a waste of money. But now, my parents who usually hated these characters loved the movie. I think the writers were really successful in making the movie loved by every age.

        And as long as Stan Lee keeps appearing on Marvel Comics movies, I’d sure love it.

      7. MichaelMD Says:
        June 18th, 2007 at 2:20 am

        >Ok, granted that the classic version of Galactus is not the most movie-friendly of visuals, but even the Fantasticar was still a car when they redesigned it. Galactus’ ship in the comics was supposed to be as big as the moon, right? A ship the size of a small planet would have been a lot more intimidating than this bodiless mist, I’ll bet.

        If they had done this ship of Galactus the size of the moon in the movie, you would have written a blog with the four words “Death,” “Star,” “Unicron,” and “ripoff.”

      8. HAK Says:
        June 18th, 2007 at 10:41 am

        Jessica Alba is Hot….Must see it for her! Stunning.

      9. Orpheus (Angel episode) Says:
        July 13th, 2007 at 3:14 pm

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      10. Galatasaray University Says:
        July 19th, 2007 at 10:33 pm

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