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      iRiver H320, pictures and stuff

      25 Oct 2004

      What does it take to kill an iPod?

      I think that’s the question on everybody’s mind these days, right up there with “Did Ashlee Simpson fuck up her SNL performance on purpose” and “Why do men have nipples?” The past two years have seen second-tier players (and indeed, who isn’t second-tier in an iPod World) one-upping each other on a monthly basis, fighting for the vaunted first runner-up position and a chance to maybe, just maybe, beat Apple at a game that it wrote the rules to.

      @##@

      Last September, iRiver unveiled its new flagship line, the H300 series, hoping to shift the five-way tug of war in their favor a little bit further …

      And before I sound anymore like an editorial assistant from PCWorld (i.e., more than I already do), let me just say that I was literally hammering down my friendly neighborhood retailer’s door to make sure I was the first to get one.

      I think what may have ultimately sold me was iRiver’s “Real Tech Geek Device” tagline, which seemed to be talking directly to me, for some reason. (It must be one of those “marketing” things, you know, like with research and surveys and stuff.) I wanted something that addressed my two basic concerns (disk space and battery life), and threw in as many cool extras as possible, which the H300 series seemed to have by the shitload.

      The model I bought, the H320, sports a 20-gig hard drive (which explains the “20″ in its name, if only partially) and up to 16 hours of playback on a single charge. (I’ve only been able to get 12 hours, though, which is still fairly decent considering I’m the sort of guy who turns this thing on when I wake up, and then leaves it on until its batteries deflate.) Oh, and it has a 262,000-color screen too which is pretty charming considering it’s currently the only player in the world with one (as of 4:03 pm, 24 October 2004). It also comes with an inline remote, which is a pretty standard option for HDD players these days, and supports pretty much every music format that matters (MP3, WMA, OGG, ASF).

      In terms of sound quality, the iRiver is top-notch. It comes with some fairly decent Sennheiser earbuds, which are more than enough for your average user and probably much, much better than the generic earbuds that most other players come packaged with (the iPod being the exception I suppose). I’ve always been more of a fan of the music itself than the technology that goes into its reproduction, so I don’t require high-end stuff like Sony Nudes or Grados (although if a kindly old sound enthusiast were to accidentally leave a pair in my gadget bag, well then, I’d just say I lost them).

      The visibility on the 2-inch LCD is also pretty good. I have pretty weak eyes, but I can read the song titles comfortably at about 3 feet away. Just don’t expect to be able to keep this on top of your home stereo and be able to make out the letters from across the room.

      Although I’m mostly satisfied with how it looks, I do wish there was a way to rearrange the info screen a little. The entire lower half of the display is taken up by the animating channel and volume bars, which seems like an awful waste of space when you consider that lengthy band names like “And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead” are squeezed in at the top half of the screen by truncating them at the 20th character. Oh, and while they’re at it, they might as well add a bit of customizability to their background graphics. That blue gradient is a bit too “Windows 95″ for my tastes. (OK, that’s a lie. Windows 95’s blue gradient started at #0000cc. This one is more of a #ccccff.)

      On the “Cool Extras” side of things, we have the H320’s ability to act as a USB 1.1 host (allowing it to pull files directly from digital cameras, PDAs or other music players), an FM Radio (which you can even record in real-time), a built-in microphone (with voice-activated recording), line in/out ports, an external battery pack (more on this one later), an image/text viewer and two fistfuls of cable.

      The external battery pack is a sincere but ultimately … well, crappy, attempt at extending the H320’s battery life without actually making its Lithium-Polymer battery removable (the way many other portables are doing). Since it requires 4 AA’s, it adds so much weight and bulk that the H320 doesn’t feel all that portable anymore. I’m actually unsure how you’re supposed to carry the player around with the battery pack attached, to be honest. It’s too big for your pocket and it doesn’t have a clip for your belt, so you’re basically stuck with keeping it in your bag (which is probably a good idea since there is some serious un-cool-ness to this battery pack that makes me want to hide it away from public view).

      All of those other little nitpicks aside though, I think the main issue with the H320 is its usability. It’s sort of an interesting split between “easy as pie” and “Jesus, please help me,” and as most gadget buffs know, when you can’t understand how to make something work, Jesus usually doesn’t help you, and neither does the manual.

      Good stuff first: Windows recognized it immediately as an external hard drive when I plugged it into my USB port, so I didn’t have to install any software. I just dragged my entire music folder onto its drive icon, and sat back. 12 gigs took a little less than an hour to copy, which was a lot shorter than I was expecting, but will only work if your computer has USB 2.0 ports. (At USB 1.0, it’d take … hell, I’m almost scared to guess here … maybe 6 hours?)

      As soon as the files were loaded and the player itself had been adequately charged (full charge takes about 3 hours), playing music was as easy as pressing the PLAY button. The PREVIOUS and NEXT buttons function as you would expect them to, namely, pressing them loads the next track, and holding them will move the playhead forwards or backwards within the current track.

      Well, that all seems easy enough. Now, how do I use the FM radio?

      Unfortunately, the ease-of-use ends where the “Cool Extras” begin. I had to keep referring to the manual to figure out certain functions, like activating the aforementioned FM radio (hold the Record button while in Playback mode) or turning on the Shuffle mode (press the Record button several times to cycle through the different modes).

      The center (literally) of the iRiver user-interface is the blue NAVI button, which has different functions depending on whether you press it or hold it, and your position within the menu-system. It’s actually similar to the Nokia’s Menu key on some of its phones. What confounded me about iRiver’s implementation was that apparently, some of the other buttons had this function-morphing mojo as well, but only during specific times.

      For example, you can use the A->B button (and may I just say that iRiver could not have picked a more ambiguous button label if they had thrown darts at a wall of printed Linux source) to queue up the next song you want to listen to, but only during playback and only when you’re in the File Tree view. Otherwise, it functions as an Equalizer switch, unless, that is, you happen to be listening to the radio, in which case it will store the current frequency in memory. You can also use it to create a looping segment in the current song you’re listening to (if you wanted to hear a certain portion repeatedly), but it looked so complicated my eyes wouldn’t read it.

      I guess if you take a step back and look at how the whole menu system is organized, you’ll see a certain logic to everything, but there are too many dead-ends and complete turnarounds to be very intuitive. I know that most companies these days encourage users to read the guides thoroughly before using their products, but should it really be this difficult to use a digital jukebox? Or its cool extras, for that matter?

      I’ve never used an iPod, but I can’t imagine its learning curve being higher than the H320’s. On the other hand, after a few days (or in my case, weeks) of regular use, all learning curves tend to flatten themselves out pretty evenly, so I guess this’ll all be moot by Monday.

      Some other minor quibbles, here and there:

      For some reason, connecting the player to your computer stops playback. I’m not sure why, and I haven’t found a way around it as of yet. Are they worried that you might delete a file that was currently playing, and like, force a self-destruct sequence or something? Annoying.

      This device is pretty heavy too, all things considered. It’s almost as heavy as my Nikon Coolpix 4300, which, being a camera, is totally unrelated to this review and totally irrelevant as a point of comparison. But, it’s pretty close weight-wise, and it’s not like I could say it was as heavy as my UPS. It will just barely fit in your pocket without being bothersome, and only if you’re wearing loose pants.

      Also, after the 2000-song mark, the H320 becomes noticeably sluggish, taking almost a full minute before it’s ready to start playing music. The slowdown is actually related to the ID3 database that it has to read every time it starts up, so the unit comes with this feature turned off by default. If you’re not very persnickety about collating and organizing your MP3 collection, you will almost certainly need to have this database feature on, but I’ve found that having a Letter->Artist->Album folder hierarchy can replace the db in most cases. (I knew there was a reason why I hand-typed those 700 artist-name folders two months ago!)

      To be fair, once the database had been properly loaded, response time was pretty snappy, whether I was pressing Next repeatedly while on Shuffle mode, or just holding down the Scroll button.

      Overall, I’m very happy with the H320; I know I sound like I’m not, but I am. Honest. The one thing it needed to do — i.e., encourage my latent autism by letting me shut out the external world for 12 hours each day — it does very well, and ultimately, that’s what matters.

      Although I admittedly have little experience with other players, I’d say that this device addresses all of my music needs pretty handily, and manages to throw in enough extras to warrant its higher price tag: US-based vendors have been pegging it somewhere between US$300 and US$350, although obviously, YMMV, here more than anywhere else. Other interesting non-iPod choices include Creative’s Zen Touch (the one with the touchpad instead of a click-wheel) and the tiny Rio Karma, although neither have color screens.

      I’ve been using the player for about a week now, and I have yet to encounter any real screwups or bugs (I’m still using the factory-installed firmware, although a patch is already available at iRiver.com), and apart from the unnecessarily complex UI, I don’t have any major complaints.

      Warning: Unsolicited Advice from Amateur Developer Ahead.

      Now, if I was to fix their UI, I’d probably just add one or two buttons instead of forcing the menu-system to conform to the handful of buttons that are currently present. A dedicated hardware button for choosing between Music, Radio, Image or Text modes would be extremely helpful for example, not to mention go a long way toward making the device useable straight out of the box. I think that alone would have prevented a lot of my initial confusion, and may have even restored my faith in Jesus to boot.

      61 Responses to “iRiver H320, pictures and stuff”

      1. 0gravity Says:
        October 25th, 2004 at 3:50 pm

        Unfortunately, Iriver stripped out the USB on-the-go capability for the U.S. models. You can download photos to it, but only via a computer. Looks like you got the international version - lucky you! In my opinion, the USBOTG was the strongest “IPod-Killer” component and I’m bummed Iriver made that decision. In fact, I’ve been waiting for the perfect unit to buy and I thought this one was it - not anymore, not w/out USBOTG. I’ll wait for Apple’s version of this

      2. TrueDis Says:
        October 25th, 2004 at 5:36 pm

        Looks like they ganked KDE’s icons for their UI

      3. Josh Says:
        October 25th, 2004 at 8:26 pm

        go to http://www.mp3players4free.8m.com to get a Free Iriver H320 20 GB mp3 player…..

      4. Richard Says:
        October 26th, 2004 at 6:10 am

        Really super device. I bought the h140 last year and Ive been extremely impressed so far. My father and brother have bought themselves h340’s on my recommendation and they both seem very happy (That far of glazed look makes it hard to tell, but they seem to be enjoying themselves). I played around with it a bit, and the interface is the same as the h140s. I could just boot up and go.

        The items were purchased in England though, and tripple checked that the USB host function was in there. (More expensive though. 350 Pounds) This is a really amazing feature and alone makes buying the player worth your while. If it isnt, just go for the h140. Same everthing, except for the colour screen, and at half the price at least.

        One niggle is that the USB host function doesnt work with devices that require seperate drivers, such as Sony products. The reason for this has to do with each manufacturer pretty much bloody well doing what they want (the stupid gits) when it comes to USB 1.1 protocols (to try and lock you into their products i guess. that or they cant read the specs). Check iRivers website. Nikon products work. Cannon doesnt

        Just purchase a USB-flashdisk reader that can connect to the IRiver. Bothersome, but its a cheap solution. Ask the store for a combo deal.

        The iRiver database is worse that useless, and a pain to work. 700 folders makes using the iRiver a breeze keeping track of what you got much easier.

        The remote control that comes with the H340 isnt as nice as the remotes that came with the H140’s. Those has a small LCD panel to display what playng. Thenew ones only have some flimsy buttons. Havent tried to plug in the h140s remote into the h340 (and I dont think I gonna, althougth it looks like it might fit.)

        As for weight Id say the 340 is even lighter than the 140. Might just be the leather case of the 140 that makes the difference though.

      5. Lee Goldstein Says:
        October 26th, 2004 at 7:09 am

        You said ” supports pretty much every music format that matters (MP3, WMA, OGG, ASF).” Though I am admittedly an iPod user, it seems AAC is a format that matters, with ~70% of the legal downloads in AAC, and with the number of installed copies of iTunes (which defaults to AAC for importing CDs).

        I understand not supported fairplay-encrypted AAC is Apple’s fault, but generic AAC should be supported.

      6. Geoff Says:
        October 26th, 2004 at 7:35 am

        Just got one of these myself - very happy with it so far and more firmware upgrades are on the cards according to iriver so I hope some of the niggles will get sorted out.

        The USB On the Go is a great feature…but I have two flash pens and it only works with one of them, and won’t talk to my Sony Cybershot camera. Shame - would be handy to use the 20Gb drive to backup photos on holiday without needing a PC nearby.

      7. luis Says:
        October 26th, 2004 at 8:29 am

        >Though I am admittedly an iPod user, it seems AAC is a format that matters,

        >with ~70% of the legal downloads in AAC

        Fair point, and I have no excuse for writing out that particularly daft statement other than i am an idiot and don’t know any better.

        Sarcasm aside, thanks for pointing it out though :)

      8. acb Says:
        October 26th, 2004 at 3:57 pm

        There are people involved in the Rockbox project (http://www.rockbox.org; a free, reverse-engineered firmware/OS for the Archos Jukebox series far superior to the factory firmware) working on porting Rockbox to the iRiver H-series. Good luck to them; it certainly could do with a non-sucky firmware.

      9. Yung Says:
        October 27th, 2004 at 10:10 am

        Actually if they just had a click wheel that would have solved a whole bunch of issues. Like the one on a blackberry, clie, rio karma, etc….you get the picture.

      10. Zone Says:
        October 27th, 2004 at 12:27 pm

        Just a guess, but I’d bet the reason that playback stops when you plug it into the computer is because the computer sees it as a hard drive. Any drive has to be stopped when plugged in.

        Otherwise, you risk file corruption.

        I would guess that, somewhere in the docs, it says to make sure the unit is powered off when connecting and disconnecting.

        It’s the same with the H120.

      11. cyberguest.net Says:
        October 27th, 2004 at 7:20 pm

        last time i checked (few days ago)

        h320 was actually a little bit cheaper than h120

        is there any reason to get h120 instead of h320?

        3D sound is missing from h120, what is that?

      12. Ed Says:
        October 27th, 2004 at 8:31 pm

        You say that is is the only mp3 jukebox with “262,000-color screen “. The Archos Gmini 400 also has a color LCD screen that supports that many colors. But maybe you considered that a personal video player and not an mp3 jukebox?

      13. luis Says:
        October 27th, 2004 at 10:19 pm

        Ed:

        Exactly. The GMini is a hybrid product that you can’t rightly call a portable jukebox. Also, at US$500, it’s well in to the iPod Photo price range of the market (read: too expensive).

      14. Tom Says:
        October 29th, 2004 at 2:28 pm

        Gonna go get an MP3 Player tomorrow. Question is: iPod, H320, or the new Sony?!

      15. Tom Says:
        October 29th, 2004 at 2:32 pm

        Gonna go get an MP3 Player tomorrow. Question is: iPod, H320, or the new Sony?!

      16. Colin Says:
        October 29th, 2004 at 11:51 pm

        Get a free H320 by signing up here

        http://www.mp3players4free.com/default.aspx?r=13814

      17. Richard Says:
        November 2nd, 2004 at 11:37 am

        hmmmmmm……after reading ur review its kinda put me off getting one of these gizmos.i think i’ll get one of those creative zen’s instead…

      18. Jose Says:
        November 2nd, 2004 at 4:57 pm

        Bought a 320 on Ebay for 263 (S&H included)….I think its a sweet deal. I looked up the h120 and it was WAY more expensive than this one…so I echo the question asked before, is there a reason for that?

        And about that “free” MP3 player…I cant believe people are falling for that scam…well…my 2 cents.

      19. Drew Says:
        November 4th, 2004 at 12:31 pm

        In response to Jose, I’d just like to say that I’m enjoying my free H320 from mp3players4free.com very much.

        Though the UI isn’t totally intuitive, it’s still a very good product, and the fact that it could record sound is what made me choose this player over the free iPod. I’m using it to record my lectures, and it’s been amazingly helpful.

      20. jack Says:
        November 6th, 2004 at 2:07 am

        Sure you are, Drew. Pfffft.

      21. Alvin Says:
        November 7th, 2004 at 1:15 am

        on http://www.iriver.com there are new updates for the firmware which say that you can watch movies off your h320, is that true?

      22. RadiOboy812 Says:
        November 7th, 2004 at 7:36 pm

        i really don’t know. ( although I saw a screenshot of it on BNH.com and there was another category other than music ,radio,record,text etc. on the main menu called “video”)

      23. radioboy812 Says:
        November 8th, 2004 at 4:50 pm

        the international iriver website says that one of the features of the H320 was that you could view text files. But then it said, North American key features different. Can the North American version view text?

        Please answer my question if you are open to this web page

        Thank you

      24. Brandon Says:
        November 9th, 2004 at 3:51 am

        I bought a US version of the H320 before i realised the USB-on-the-go feature was not available (US version only) i was told by the iRiver support team that The US version had another featrure instead of USB-on-the-go, which enabled me to download purchased MP3 from Napster. Is this really a great selling point over USB-on-the-go, are iRiver on acid? Apart from that it has replaced my iplod! but i will be looking to replace with UK version unless iRiver get there fingers out of a dark hole.

      25. Brandon Says:
        November 9th, 2004 at 3:56 am

        I bought a US version of the H320 before i realised the USB-on-the-go feature was not available (US version only) i was told by the iRiver support team that The US version had another featrure instead of USB-on-the-go, which enabled me to download purchased MP3 from Napster. Is this really a great selling point over USB-on-the-go, are iRiver on acid? Apart from that it has replaced my iplod! but i will be looking to replace with UK version unless iRiver get there fingers out of a dark hole.

      26. Brandon UK Says:
        November 9th, 2004 at 3:57 am

        sorry not trying to hog the board, don’t know why my comment has appeard twice?

      27. Zach Says:
        November 9th, 2004 at 6:39 pm

        If anyone has an H320 US version, then PLEASE tell me if it has a text viewer!

      28. John UK Says:
        November 10th, 2004 at 1:08 pm

        i am considering buying a H-320 soon one question that is gona seal the deal for me is, when im transfering all my files over will they remain in the files that i drag over in, i have 100’s of folders,some of which containing unamed files, am i going 2 able 2 keep track of these files by locating the Folder which i have named on my PC through the iRiver?? cheers

      29. John UK Says:
        November 10th, 2004 at 1:48 pm

        i am considering buying a H-320 soon one question that is gona seal the deal for me is, when im transfering all my files over will they remain in the files that i drag over in, i have 100’s of folders,some of which containing unamed files, am i going 2 able 2 keep track of these files by locating the Folder which i have named on my PC through the iRiver?? cheers

      30. Brandon UK Says:
        November 11th, 2004 at 7:58 am

        Help! does anybody know how to get out of Radio mode, i have pushed every button combination possible. Im sure it’s simple but so am i!

      31. Brandon UK Says:
        November 11th, 2004 at 8:10 am

        Help! does anybody know how to get out of Radio mode, i have pushed every button combination possible. Im sure it’s simple but so am i!

      32. Brandon UK Says:
        November 11th, 2004 at 8:15 am

        To answer a previous question about viewing text files on the US version, yes it can!

        John in UK question about file structure, yes i moved a whole tree structure and was able to navigate via the iRiver browser, a little fumbely but got there.

        The buttons are pants i must abmit and still annoyed about the USB-on-the-go feature missing.

      33. Zach Says:
        November 12th, 2004 at 6:47 am

        Thank You for answering my question… but I have another that this time has to do with your opinion. Is the navigating through all of your music files slow? Other reviews say it is.

      34. chris Says:
        November 12th, 2004 at 5:27 pm

        I am trying to decide between the H320 or the new gateway color player, but that’s only 4GB (with USBOTG) I also have a SOny cybershot, should i get this player. Can you run with it? I like lifting and running to music. I’m so lost! Every player has atleast one good reason not to buy it. Any ideas?

      35. chris Says:
        November 12th, 2004 at 5:30 pm

        I am trying to decide between the H320 or the new gateway color player, but that’s only 4GB (with USBOTG) I also have a SOny cybershot, should i get this player. Can you run with it? I like lifting and running to music. I’m so lost! Every player has atleast one good reason not to buy it. Any ideas?

      36. Nick Says:
        November 13th, 2004 at 11:48 pm

        I like eggs

      37. Zach Says:
        November 14th, 2004 at 12:18 pm

        (Replie to chris) ur sony cyber shot camera wont respond to an iriver ( because sony makes everything incompadible!!!!) But if the gateway player only holds 4GB then get an iriver!!! And i am sure the iriver has much better sound quality and options, and has many more nice features. Just get an Iriver H3xx or ipod photo.

      38. Zach Says:
        November 14th, 2004 at 12:21 pm

        (Replie to chris) And i think only way u could run with either the gateway player or iriver would be to have a zipper pocket.

      39. Pavol Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 9:12 am

        Anybody knows if Minolta Dimage Z2 will be compatible with this player ? Thanks.

      40. Zach Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 1:02 pm

        Yes, definately

      41. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:14 pm

        gi

      42. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:14 pm

        gi

      43. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:14 pm

        gi

      44. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:14 pm

        gi

      45. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:14 pm

        gi

      46. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:14 pm

        gi

      47. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:15 pm

        gi

      48. as Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:15 pm

        gi

      49. Zach Says:
        November 15th, 2004 at 3:15 pm

        What the hell was that??

      50. Surdyman Says:
        November 17th, 2004 at 4:12 am

        hi guys, just trying to decide between a h340 and h140… is color and an lcd remote the only difference? please help… btw.. i have already decided to move away from the ipod… too smoooth and roundy for me… lack of character…

      51. Zach Says:
        November 17th, 2004 at 3:53 pm

        H140 (replie to surdyman) H320

        black screen=bad color screen= good

        looks boring crappy button=bad sleek buttons looks sleek=good

        remote included w/ screen=good no remote included=bad

        no photo viewer=bad photo viewer=good

        40GB of HDD storage=good 20GB(or 40 for 340)=(if 20GB)not as good

        Both have SRS high quality sound

        DEFINATELY GET AN H3xx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      52. Zach Says:
        November 17th, 2004 at 3:56 pm

        (replie to Surdyman) GET AN H3XX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      53. Zach Says:
        November 20th, 2004 at 11:50 pm

        when i press the navi button in playback standby mode, a horizontal menu should appear on the screen that goes like this: File Tree,artist,album,genre,playlist(Winamp). But for me, the file tree automatically opens up and i never get that menu.(i have a u.s. version.) Could anyone try to explain this?? Thanks.

      54. luke Says:
        November 25th, 2004 at 3:13 pm

        i was wondering if you actualy could play video on the iriver. i just bought one, and it hasnt been delivered yet, so id like to know before it comes. thanx

        happy thanksgiving!

      55. luke again Says:
        November 25th, 2004 at 3:21 pm

        its an h320

      56. Michael Allen Says:
        November 29th, 2004 at 10:19 am

        Bought an H320 a couple of days ago and Windows 2000 does not recognize it and it does not show up as an additional hard drive in Windows Explorer. What Gives?????

      57. Michael Allen Says:
        November 29th, 2004 at 10:21 am

        I’m currently stuck with loading songs onto my H320 directly from a portable CD player.

      58. shuan Says:
        November 29th, 2004 at 11:51 am

        what format does the voice recording record as? .wav? i’m wondering cuz i play in a band, and i was wondering if the iriver is a good solution to record, store, and transfer files to n fro the my comp quickly.. i currently have sony net md, and it can record, but i have to record it to my cpu with line-in, which takes a long ass time, since i rec 30 min songs..

        is this product really worth buying? is the plastic covering really shitty? can som1 send me hi-res pics of their player and tell me all the cons of this player so i can compare btwn this and other mp3hd players? thx..

      59. shuan Says:
        November 29th, 2004 at 11:52 am

        my email addy is bigshuannie@yahoo.com

      60. shuan Says:
        November 29th, 2004 at 11:54 am

        my email addy is bigshuannie@yahoo.com

      61. shuan Says:
        November 29th, 2004 at 11:59 am

        btw, how many hours can u record on one battery charge? the net md can only rec 45 min at most

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